Location. Camino, CA. Yesterday at 4:43 PM. #1. 2001 Pietta Remington 1858 NMA revolver, .44 caliber, in excellent used condition. Stainless frame/cylinder with 8” barrel, walnut grips. $320 shipped.Hi, I am helping a senior in my local high school make a Brown Bess musket from a Pedersoli kit bought from Dixie Gun Works. He is an active reenactor and wants to make as historically correct a musket as he can. What a mess. In addition to the features Pedersoli got wrong like the wrong lock markings, butt plate way too small, poor inletting, wrong stock shape, etc, etc, etc, etc. we add ...Community platform by XenForo ® © 2010-2024 XenForo Ltd. Development and Hosting By: Tech Daddies We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as …540. Location. Uwharrie Mountains, N. Carolina. Mar 25, 2024. #1. Navy Arms powder measure, unmarked pan primer, and a ball starter. $35 shipped CONUS. PM if interested. PayPal Friends and Family or money order accepted.Its a fine grained powder. Swiss 3f is a spunky powder! That charge with a .490 ball out of an old Renegade chrono'd 1750 fps. The Pennsylvania Hunter has 6 more inches of barrel, so I expect it'll be a wee bit faster. The triggers on both of my rifles are really excellent. Best TC sidelocks I've ever had.5,750. Reaction score. 8,562. Location. Tyrone , Pa. 16686. Apr 20, 2024. #7. Also , any time you fire one barrel , uncap the unfired one , and run the ramrod down on the remaining loaded barrel to make sure the load is still where you left it , when you last loaded it. This is a safety check many forget.Jan 28, 2023. #10. Both of my Uberti Dragoon occasionally drop the lever with full charges. With full 50-60gr charges of 1F black powder, my Walker levers do not drop , even with full day of shooting. 1F in the big Colts is fun, it probably doesn't make much real difference but it works so I'm sticking with it.The one I think I'm most attracted to is the Clay Smith kit. NW Trade Gun. A number of options. One that is attractive, from a skill level perspective, is the Pedersoli NW kit. Kibler Colonial. A no brainer build, and quality parts. For the moment, let's disregard caliber. Weight is one consideration.The Craftsman. Muzzleloading related things you've made or have questions about making - Knives, Tomahawks, Horns, Clothing, Bags, etc. Traditional Only - no modern designs. Do not post items unrelated to Muzzleloading. This is not a "general craft" category.40 Cal. There are many variables to consider when working up a load for any muzzleloading rifle. Bore size, rare of twist, patching material for round ball, powder type, lube for your bullet/patches. all of these things will affect accuracy and the type of powder you use and the best charge to use.The short barrel like 20 or 22 inches is cute but has lots of short comings in muzzle loaders. The old timers sorted out how long a barrel needed to be and as powder got better the barrel got shorter. Looking at late guns and into the black powder cartridge rifles 30-32 inches became the normal length for full sized rifles.559. Location. Central Wisconsin. Apr 7, 2024. #1. This is my Colonial in .54 stocked in cherry. I was convinced I needed a brass patchbox, so I went ahead and took my best swing at it. I was regretting that decision about 4 hours into the process, but now that it's finished, I like it and I'm glad I did it.Pro's and Con's wanted from those who have owned or fired this rifle. Been looking for something a bit more traditional to replace my Bobcat with and the St Louis Hawken is one I have been looking at recently. Have also looked at the Lyman Trade rifle and Traditions Woodsman. Any comments on...Mar 1, 2024. AZ Muzzleloaders posted the thread FOR SALE 54 Caliber Custom Hawken. Built from TOTW Parts Set, Curly Maple in Firearms For Sale/Trade/Wanted . Built about 1986 from a Track of the Wolf parts set. Barrel measures 32 1/4" x 1" (actual 0.985"), 1:66 rate of twist.Powder charge. Nitro (hard) card. Shotload. Thin overshot card. Full fiber cushion wad*. *The cushion wad needs to be SATURATED (the wetter and heavier, the better) with oil. I like to use olive oil. The load seems to shine best when used in cylinder bored guns. Best of luck to all, Skychief. Flintlock Rifles | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ... Oct 30, 2022. #1. I am part way through putting my Traditions Hawken kit together, and what might be typical, there are a lot of problems. Biggest besides a general lack of consistency is the lock. Fixed a problem tonight where one of the screws was pulling the entire thing in too far due to lack of support. Installed a brass tube to draw down ...Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Traditional Muzzleloading on the Cheap - Info Center. 170762 Posts in 21384 Topics by 144 Members. Latest Member: smdoyle. Latest Post: "Re: Powder" ( Today at …The old standard for 12 gauge full choke was .040" constriction. Modern guns with modern loads really don't need that much constriction but with muzzleloaders we still are duplicating the old loadings. So the recess for a full choke 12 is .020" deep, which of course enlarges the bore diameter by the required .040".33,410. Reaction score. 8,508. Location. Phoenix, AZ. May 28, 2017. #3. Over the years, I've built 12 rifle "kits" bought from Pecatonica River Long Rifle Supply. Some of these were the standard kits they offer in their catalog and many of them were based on their parts but the parts were of my own choosing.Jan 2, 2020. #1. Hi Guys, A friend asked me to look at the barrel on his India-made Ketland officer's fusil. The barrel and gun were made by Abdul Hakim Usta in 1979. The bolster on the breech plug is very small and it appears to have a flange around it that caps the end of the barrel. The internal plug also has an end that seems to be …Jan 2, 2020. #1. Hi Guys, A friend asked me to look at the barrel on his India-made Ketland officer's fusil. The barrel and gun were made by Abdul Hakim Usta in 1979. The bolster on the breech plug is very small and it appears to have a flange around it that caps the end of the barrel. The internal plug also has an end that seems to be slanted ...MUZZLELOADINGFORUM.COM - Site Location: Country/Flag: United States: City/Region/Zip Code: Torrance, CA, 90503: Organization: DWD Technologies LLC: Internet Service ...Easily a $6-700 rifle without a stuck bullet. My laziness is your gain. $500 firm , PayPal or mailed payments and I'll get it out. Please no lower offers, this is priced beyond fair given that it will cost me $75 to ship which I'll eat for my beloved forum members. No trades, I have enough guns that were once someone else's.Defeating and Detecting IEDs - Detecting IEDs can be done with trained soldiers, robots or even drones. Learn how the U.S. Army is detecting IEDs and defeating them. Advertisement ...0. Jan 29, 2007. #1. Hi, Most of my muzzleloader experience is with tc hawkens... I just picked up a used Traditions Deer Hunter, percussion, 1:48" twist 24" barrel, Its a little older model with the wood stock and thin fixed rubber butt plate...gun is in really nice shape, but it needs a few things ! The first and most important is the flat ...Thanks, Spence. :hatsoff: That is exactly the table that I was looking for. My revolver seems to have no date marks on it anywhere. It has the two proof marks and the letters PN but nothing else other than the serial number. :idunno: I know it of recent manufacture since Pietta began making this particular model only in recent years. :hmm: Thanks for the help.Jan 14, 2024. #4. Make sure the flint is sharp and properly positioned in the lock. Note: I am of the belief that time slows when firing a flintlock. I can hear the hxammer rotate and the flint scraping on the frizzen as the sparks start the powder burning.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.40 Cal. This is a Numrich Arms Swivel Breech rifle in .45. Build by Hopkins and Allen in early 70s. I bought this rifle for a much grander project. I was planning to make wooden side panels for barrels and reset ramrod pipes. Stock had damage to toe, that I repaired, as well as a cracked buttplate. Had to take a much larger one and refit it.33,410. Reaction score. 8,508. Location. Phoenix, AZ. May 28, 2017. #3. Over the years, I've built 12 rifle "kits" bought from Pecatonica River Long Rifle Supply. Some of these were the standard kits they offer in their catalog and many of them were based on their parts but the parts were of my own choosing.Location. Andover, VT. Aug 25, 2012. #2. Nitric acid is technically aquafortis, for sure, but the solution folks use to stain rifles is saturated with iron. Make the 10% or up to 25% solution, add iron shavings or small nails, let it cook uncovered until it is done consuming iron. Filter through a coffee filter, etc, and use this to stain maple.Clay Smith kits | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.It is nice and small and reasonably easy to make. The pattern is drawn on 1" squares. The area above the "dot-dash" to the "dash-dash" can be used in one of two ways. 1) folded under and sewn or 2) separate piece from thinner leather and folded as an edging as can be seen in the first photo.Georgia Outdoor News 4331 Seven Islands Rd Madison, GA 30650 (706) 343-0001 (800) 438-4663. Send us an e-mailSouth Carolina. Mar 30, 2020. #1. Here are my first rounds after adjusting the sights on my Traditions Kentucky Pistol I recently built from their kit. I was shooting at 10 yards single hand, freehand. I was shooting .490 rb over prelubed Ox-Yoke .018 patches. Load was 22 grains of FFFg Goex black powder.May 14, 2014. #12. The Italian guns are, in general, very good quality; more-so than the Spanish creations. The barrels, though, on both are as about as good as they get on a factory gun. The weak link seems to be the flint locks they come with (both makers). they are mostly good/very good but are often very, very bad.Reaction score. 9,916. Location. Florence Alabama. Feb 22, 2024. #10. I have ordered a lot of B/P from Powder Inc. in the past, all went smoothly. When the shortage hit, I decided to round out my stock with about 10 more # if I could find any Goex. Everyone was sold out except for Crater Fireworks.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.It's a "54" Sharps and back in the 1970s we used the Rapine "Christmas tree" bullet mold. The lands are "52", the grooves are "54" and is a "56" caliber rim with a smaller base to tie your cartridge to. The "56" caliber base rim centered the cartridge and supplies the back pressure to seal the action. Eras Gone has 2 different period molds that ...Phoenix, AZ. Jan 13, 2017. #14. His experiance with Remington's binding up because of fouling could be due to his shooting a replica of a Remington Beal's. This model of the 1858 was the first version and it was very poor at scraping the powder fouling off of the face of the cylinder.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.179. Location. Texas. May 8, 2020. #1. These precision made tools are the preferred way to cone the muzzles of roundball guns either rifled or smoothbore. Greatly eases starting the ball and the long cone allows the ball to be gently swaged into the bore without damage. I believe accuracy is unchanged.I am in the process of finding the most accurate hunting bullet for my 1:38 twist 58 cal carbine In the line up are 580 grain Maxi-ball, 560 grain Maxi-hunter, 440 grain REAL as well as some oversized minie ball 500 grain. I wish I could get my hands on some more maxi-hunters.4. Sep 7, 2008. #8. There's almost as many different types of patchbox release mechanisms as their are schools of longrifles. Some builders that try to recreate specific longrifles as exactly as possible try to use the same type of mechanism as the original rifle they are copying, even if the mechanism is hidden.Dec 28, 2023. #9. Your very best option is rifle shop and someone who knows how to assemble it. Perdisoli is great but less then correct. A loyalist arms bess from India will spark as well as my custum lock, at least mine does. They offer more models and are as close to original as Perdisoli. The wood is not walnut.2,427. Location. Federal Way Washington. Nov 23, 2022. #1. Thompson Center traditional muzzleloaders, arguably the best production blackpowder guns ever made. That ought to get some blood boiling.Apr 20, 2024 ... We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so ...Phoenix, AZ. Jan 13, 2017. #14. His experiance with Remington's binding up because of fouling could be due to his shooting a replica of a Remington Beal's. This model of the 1858 was the first version and it was very poor at scraping the powder fouling off of the face of the cylinder.It looks like overall housing trends may be throwing a wrench in the prices of HD....HD Home improvement retailer Home Depot (HD) has struggled to overcome chart resistance in the ...We recently showed you Chrome OS' new look complete with a desktop, a taskbar, and the ability to use multiple Chrome windows, but today Samsung and Google are releasing new hardwa...Hey guys, I tested out a new load for the traditions .54 blunderbuss based on someone's .54 smoothbore hunting load in another thread. I used 60 grains hodgon's triple 7 3f granulation( I don't want to hear it about not using real BP).54 wool wad over powder 80 grains of shot(#6) and a wad over shot At 20 yards the pattern had 30 average hits into what I consider the kill zone.One of the most wonderful stocks I had ever held in my hands. The barrel channel was 1 " and 37 " long . Adding another inch to it made it 38" , Perfect for a .62 cal. by 1" longrifle for deer. It too was a tack driver that killed any deer you shot at. The shear beauty of the wood in the rifle made me love it.Reaction score. 56. Location. New York. Jul 12, 2023. #1. Picked up a traditions .54 cal blunderbuss kit 6 months ago as my first smokepole and have had a great time developing loads. You'd be surprised how good some of the patterns are. These would likely work in another .54 smoothie or 28 gauge.ETF strategy - XTRACKERS MSCI ALL CHINA EQUITY ETF - Current price data, news, charts and performance Indices Commodities Currencies StocksThe Craftsman. Muzzleloading related things you've made or have questions about making - Knives, Tomahawks, Horns, Clothing, Bags, etc. Traditional Only - no modern designs. Do not post items unrelated to Muzzleloading. This …Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Dec 8, 2018. #1. I am relatively new to ML. With the older eyes I changed the iron sights on the Lyman Great Plains rifle to the Lyman fiber optic sights. The rear hi vis green are ok but the front red is no better than the old iron sight. Was wondering if possible to take out the red fiber optic rod and replace with a green hi vis rod piece.H-48 Primer compound formula by weight: Potassium chlorate 51%. Antimony sulfide 27.3%. Sulfur 9.1%. Glass powder 12.1%. Sodium bicarbonate trace (optional) Aluminum powder trace (optional) Or go to ebay, search "priming compound". It'll be at the top of the page.I went grey squirrel hunting with a buddy this morning. He used a 36 and I tried my T/C New Englander 12 gauge with cylinber bore. I shot and killed with the first pull of the trigger at a squirrel between 20-25 yards away. The rest of the morning I fired 3 more shots at squirrels from 30...Both rifles are Investarm rifles, the flintlock is a Lyman Great Plains Rifle and the percussion is a Cabela's .58 caliber Hawken. I'm thinking about swapping out the percussion breech plug on one rifle for the flintlock breech plug on another. The flintlock is .50 caliber and the percussion is .58 caliber. The outside dimensions are the same.Jun 17, 2019 · Reaction score. 7,675. Nov 21, 2023. #1. Any other subscribers to Muzzleloader magazine that haven't gotten the Nov/Dec issue yet? I know various things may delay production of a specialty magazine, but just wondered as it's getting to the end of Nov. soon. My local newsstand still has the Sep/Oct issue on display, also. I purchased a CVA 58 caliber Mountain Rifle in 1977 and have never fired it. It has a slow twist 66 barrel. I want to begin working up loads for it and have purchase Buffalo Ballets, TC Maxiball and Maxi hunters. I also have Wonder Wads. Any tips for load work-up: powder, caps, starting...It is probably fair to say that most of the #AHA19 attendees know that cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of death in their respective country. We’ve heard this fact repea...Shiloh Sharps 1863 infantry rifle with .535” ball at 50 yards. Loaded loose 2fg powder after lightly breech seating the ball and CCI musket caps. After more then a dozen shots I adjusted the sight for the last two in the bullseye. 383D6502-C1B1-43A3-8F7B-FFEC3DAC92E5 by Oliver Sudden, on Flickr.26. Location. Woodlands of Northern New England. Jan 4, 2006. #4. No disrespect intended to Stumpkiller, I'm very big into target shooting and competitive shoots. While target shooting i've had many people come over to watch me with a muzzleloader,try mine and then get into muzzleloading at our club shoots.Dec 4, 2021. #3. ord sgt said: You don't need to over tighten the sear screw. The tumbler needs room to rotate without friction from the lock plate and the bridal. Finger tight on your turn screw is all that is needed. I usually put a small amount of oil on the lock plate and bridal, and some oil on the sear screw.142. May 23, 2022. #1. As some of you may remember I spoke about the percussion cap makers by Sharpshooter 22LR Reloader Store. I will recap my previous post on my experience with the #11 percussion cap die and end the post with my experience with the #10. "The die performed great. The percussion caps are ugly.I have been asked and read alot lately about which is a better cal. 54 or 58? So I decided to look at some reference material (beartooth bullet ballistic site and the Sam Fadala new 2nd edition blackpowder manuel) and this is what I came up with. I am no way bias as to the outcome because I am...Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.The muzzleloaders of CVA and Traditions are manufactured in Spain in the same region: Vasque Country. CVA is manufactured by Dikar and Traditions by Ardesa. Dikar is in Bergara and Ardesa in Zamudio (Bilbao). They are towns that are less than 70 milles away. The quality of the flint locks it has improved in Ardesa (Traditions) with respect to ...Back in 1978 I was introduced to a couple in Cascade Montana who had a wonderful collection of Sharon and GRRW guns, mostly Hawkens. They must have had between 6 or 8 guns in a presentation rack. Talk about a Pavlov's dog response, it made a young muzzleloading enthusiast drool.The builder of my rifle made a clean kill at 90 yards with 70 grains 3f in a .54. I looked up the load in the Lyman Black Powder Handbook and Loading Manual; 70 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 963 ft lb. 100 yards - 456 ft lb. 90 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 1111 ft lb. 100 yards - 487 ft lb.i've been shooting the pietta remmington 1858 new army revolver since 2009 and still use the pietta nipples that came with the revolver and remmington #10 caps. never had a misfire or cap jam and use the grease over ball so far. up to a few years ago i shot the hornady 451 balls and never had any issues. read that the .454's were better so i bought a box of the hornady cold form .454's and the ...Vintage Thompson center .45 cal flintlock. Excellent condition and solid wood, brass shows patina but can easily be polished. Double set triggers and a 28" browned octagon barrel held in place by wedge. Overall length is 46". Never fired by me, but lock is in great working condition and previous... muskethunter1109.26. Location. Woodlands of Northern New England. Jan 4, 2006. #4. No disrespect intended to Stumpkiller, I'm very big into target shooting and competitive shoots. While target shooting i've had many people come over to watch me with a muzzleloader,try mine and then get into muzzleloading at our club shoots.One of the most wonderful stocks I had ever held in my hands. The barrel channel was 1 " and 37 " long . Adding another inch to it made it 38" , Perfect for a .62 cal. by 1" longrifle for deer. It too was a tack driver that killed any deer you shot at. The shear beauty of the wood in the rifle made me love it.
You indeed have a Mowrey rifle, which were produced for a while in Olney, Texas. They are a copy of the Allen & Thurber rifles of the 1850's and 1860's, which were produced in Worcester, Massachusetts. A rather unique rifle in the era of the caplock, they used a casting to house the action, and a very large casting in the butt of the stock.. Pussu porn
Nov 25, 2019 · Oct 18, 2020. #1. Yesterday I was fortunate enough to kill a nice buck with my .54 flintlock using a .530 round ball with a .018 patch over 80 grains of Swiss FFG at about 60 yards.. Although I posted the fact I was blessed with success, I neglected to comment on the sheer power displayed by the round ball I shot. 23. Location. Upstate NY. Dec 23, 2012. #6. I used 80 gr. 2F with a t/c 370gr. maxi ball was a very accurate load out of all my 50 cal. t/c muzzleloaders with a 1:48 twist. A 320 gr. t/c maxi ball worked well also. Never had much luck with accuracy with the t/c maxi hunters. The maxi balls have great penetration.Gang molds were apparently common. In 1768, Baynton, Warton and Morgan received these: "4 Brass Bullet Moulds in Chest No, 3 to run 30 bullets at once in each (moulds at 55 shillings a piece)" In the Shane interviews a couple of interesting entries, late 18th century. James Wade: “He ran all his bullets in a pair of moulds that had a knife in ...Nov 5, 2011. #8. As mentioned the underhammer was used primarily for target rifles and since hunting was 95% of what guns were used for that explains the scarcity of that design. For hunting they do have a drawback. To cock an underhammer one must take the shooting hand entirely off the grip and reach forward to the hammer.15. Mar 1, 2014. #2. You're right about Illinois law making little sense. Some of the goofy stuff; During the muzzleloading rifle only season pistols are NOT allowed. But you CAN use your muzzleloading pistol during the late-winter antlerless-only season so long as it meets muzzle energy requirements.Republic mo. Jul 5, 2017. #10. Just look at the ballistics data a .54 loaded with 120 grains 3f will get about 1800 fps in a 35" barrel or so. At 100 yards will slow to 1050 or so. An 80 grain charge will do about 1500 fps and will slow to a little more then 900. Fater charges won't buy you a lot down range.The synthetic powders energy level per cubic inch is the same as black powder so use the volume measure for all of them. A .45 caliber rifle will use a .440 diameter ball patched with a patch that may be from .010 to .020 thick. Most people find that a .015-=.018 patch works best. The patch must also be made of pure cotton.Location. Maine. Mar 26, 2019. #1. I bought a Spanish .50 cal Hawken made in Ardessa Spain. The bore was cruddy but it cleaned up with some elbow grease.This isn't a CVA Hawken. This one is a very good copy, actually put a T/C to shame. It's double pinned, hooked breech, long tang and double set triggers.This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We ...I try to explain it like this. The tried-and-true 45/70. 45 cal. lead bullet pushed by 70 gr. black powder. With muzzle energy of more than 1,600 foot-pounds, the 405 grain FP bullet hit a distance of 200 yards and flew at 1,330 feet per second. This bullet easily killed bears, moose, and bison.Location. Camino, CA. Yesterday at 4:43 PM. #1. 2001 Pietta Remington 1858 NMA revolver, .44 caliber, in excellent used condition. Stainless frame/cylinder with 8” barrel, walnut grips. $320 shipped.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Mar 10, 2008. #4. When I was a kid, we didn't have fancy pre-made wads. We used pieces of old wasp nest (very good), news paper and even cotton balls. The trick was to pull the cotton balls apart a little bit so that they didn't fly very far. Lubed with a loose beeswax and tallow/olive oil lube they worked well.Ok I got a good old cva st.louis hawken in 54. I used to hunt elk with it. The load I used was 90 grains of rs and a cast 380 grain real bullet.do to bad neck and back I can no longer shoot this load. So I was thinking using it on deer with a round ball. Most shots at black tail deer here or....