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Rimfire Central Firearm Forum A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!Newly joined Members must meet our new 30/30 rule (30 days + 30 posts) to use the Trading Post / Marketplace. The first member who posts "I will take it." in the ad thread has first right to buy. If you sell an item via PM or elsewhere and DON'T mark your ad "Sold", you risk suspension or forfeiture of your Marketplace Classifieds privileges.CharlieNC Discussion starter. 67 posts · Joined 2018. #1 · Oct 31, 2023. Mile High has Center X in stock, get it fast! Mr-Subsonic, falkor_shooter and Appalachian2. Save Share. Sort by Oldest first. T.The Millvale Sportsmens Club in Wexford, PA (Franklin Park) is pleased to announce another schedule of rifle matches that may be shot with a .22 Rimfire, this time at 200 yards!!! Match fee is $5.00, juniors shoot for free. Course of Fire is 3 sighters, 40 rounds for score in @ 200 Yards (pit duty required) .Newly joined Members must meet our new 30/30 rule (30 days + 30 posts) to use the Trading Post / Marketplace. The first member who posts "I will take it." in the ad thread has first right to buy. If you sell an item via PM or elsewhere and DON'T mark your ad "Sold", you risk suspension or forfeiture of your Marketplace Classifieds privileges.A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!DrGunner. 15013 posts · Joined 2004. #2 · May 22, 2023. Hello- The reason why you cannot see or respond to an ad in the Marketplace Classifieds section is because you have not met the requisite minimum 30 forum posts required for participation in that area of Rimfire Central. The Marketplace Classifieds area is a free service provided and ...Rimfire Central. Private group. ·. 14.1K members. Join group. About this group. This group is dedicated to all Rimfire rifles and pistols. Post pictures of your guns along with the information about it. Which ammo works best for you and your gun.3Dub. 1611 posts · Joined 2010. #2 · Oct 6, 2023. "Sporting" should be present on trigger guards of the pre-A, A and B sporters but not the 52Cs. "Sporting" is also present on the Winchester (Miroku) repros; the Browning-marked …Marketplace; Showcase; Gallery; Advanced Search; Members; FAQ; Dark Mode; ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.3K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization ...How do I report a market scammer? Save Share. Like. ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.2K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting ...Lubricate the trigger group with a small amount of your favorite light oil. Run a couple of boxes more of your favorite ammo. If the trigger is still not to your liking, go the Timney route. I had a used 452 American that would shoot one groups at 50 yards and had a great factory trigger.3 posts · Joined 2016. #2 · Dec 15, 2022. Just getting into bolt action 22s for 50 yard benchrest and kyl. I have the X1 Conquer 6-24x50 on my MTR which should serve me well at 100 yards when I get there. Also have the Riton 3 Primal 4-16x44 on my @1. I like the clarity and the clean reticles on both. Started with the 4-16 then moved into the ...It was a popular revolver, but even then, the price was high. THE AMERICAN RIFLEMAN magazine for December 1955 had an advertisement for the Colt SAA in .38 Special or .45 Colt for $125.00. Colt decided that they needed a .22 caliber single action revolver to capitalize on the interest in .22s and to compete with Ruger in …Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inAll Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.1K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...All Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.2K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...I purchased an M69 for $150 a couple of years ago. They are quirky and accurate. The firing pin doubles as the ejector creating some FTE issues. Aftermarket magazines are available but may need a little adjustment to feed. There are many posts on RfC regarding these rifles to look through before you buy.Lubricate the trigger group with a small amount of your favorite light oil. Run a couple of boxes more of your favorite ammo. If the trigger is still not to your liking, go the Timney route. I had a used 452 American that would shoot one groups at 50 yards and had a great factory trigger.Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inSponz1. 17 posts · Joined 2023. #10 · Mar 19, 2023. Welcome from Southwest Ohio...First rifle I ever shot as a teenager was a Nylon 66. Hadn't thought about it till I read your title. Like. M.Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log in2842 posts · Joined 2002. #1 · Feb 7, 2022. I asked Ruger about if they planned on bringing back the Marlin 39 A. Here is the reply : "We are now in the process of setting up production of new, Ruger-made, Marlin-branded firearms and anticipate bringing these products to market in late 2021. Initially, we will be focused on the Model 1894 ...Today's market place - 45-70, $2 per round is a very fair price. .30 Carbine, $1 per round is a very fair price. ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.4K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles ...If you are shooting at 100 yards or less (NRL22), try 12-14 X on the scope. Find a comfortable zoom setting compromise for locating targets in your field of view and being able to see the target clearly. Most PRS shooters I know use about 15-18 power for targets out to 300 yards.Marketplace; Showcase; Gallery; Advanced Search; Members; FAQ; Dark Mode; ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.3K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization ...Health insurance is an essential aspect of maintaining good health and wellbeing. However, with so many options available, it can be overwhelming to choose the right plan that meet...The Millvale Sportsmens Club in Wexford, PA (Franklin Park) is pleased to announce another schedule of rifle matches that may be shot with a .22 Rimfire, this time at 200 yards!!! Match fee is $5.00, juniors shoot for free. Course of Fire is 3 sighters, 40 rounds for score in @ 200 Yards (pit duty required) .The pull weight adjustment range is 175 - 450 grams or 6.2 - 15.9 ounces. Note: The J&P Custom Products website says their Anschutz Trigger Spring Set, with three springs, will work with several triggers, including the 5098. According to their information, the heaviest spring provides a 14 - 21 ounce pull.Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inDark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inHenry Golden Boy - Skinner Sights - Express Sights or Barrel Mount Sights. bwk900. Mar 31, 2024. 11. 525. 2d ago.MARKETPLACE PRECAUTIONS. In recent years, internet crime has become a pervasive plague in all areas of our lives. Unfortunately, RFC has also become a target. Scammers create member profiles and hide among our ranks. They post in forums and even upgrade to "Plus", to lend an air of legitimacy to their user profile.Step 1: Click on "Login/Register" button near the upper right-hand corner of the community. Step 2: On the left-hand side of the form, click on, Join Now". Step 3: Fill out form and select "Register". Step 4: An Account Confirmation email will be sent to you. This contains a link for you to click to confirm you wish to create an account. Note: Until you confirm your account, you will ...All Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.2K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...Marketplace; Showcase; Gallery; Advanced Search; Members; FAQ; Dark Mode; Light Mode; ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.3K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing ...Newly joined Members must meet our new 30/30 rule (30 days + 30 posts) to use the Trading Post / Marketplace. The first member who posts "I will take it." in the ad thread has first right to buy. If you sell an item via PM or elsewhere and DON'T mark your ad "Sold", you risk suspension or forfeiture of your Marketplace Classifieds privileges.Oct 25, 2019 · 23. 939. Apr 16, 2024. by Gixxer2000. B. Scope choices. I've looked at reviews and I think I've narrowed it down. Comments are welcome and desired. BrianK. Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inThe Optics Planet website has two reviews showing on the 457 WL Replacement Barrel area. They show a 3 of 5 rating for the barrel. It really is a crock that the barrel has such a low rating as the 5 star rating one buyer gave is pulled down to a 3 by the one star rating given by someone who was unhappy with the way the barrel(s) he received were packaged.Nov 16, 2023 · A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Truth is, the RFC server didn't work properly in the past, and the team of mods covering the Marketplace Classifieds would have to find the time to do it manually, which would only occur on occasion & not on a schedule or set by an algorithm. ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 194.7K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum ...11 posts · Joined 2023. #13 · Jan 17, 2024. I'm in the process of building one. I've got the action, trigger, and bottom metal. I'll post pictures when it's finished. Bison Tactical: RimX Action, Bartlein MTU 24" (@ gunsmith: Modacam), and action wrench.Several 457's with spring replacement. All range between 12oz to 24ozs depending on the competition they are used for. Factory spring can often be reduced to under 2 lbs or less, safely. Trigger is fully adjustable so why buy an aftermarket! Since God is for you, who can successfully be against you!15031 posts · Joined 2004. #13 · May 13, 2023. Hello- The reason why you cannot respond to an ad in the Marketplace Classifieds section is because you have not met the requisite minimum 30 forum posts required for participation in that area of Rimfire Central. This was covered in a recent announcement:Health insurance is an essential aspect of maintaining good health and wellbeing. However, with so many options available, it can be overwhelming to choose the right plan that meet...23. 939. Apr 16, 2024. by Gixxer2000. B. Scope choices. I've looked at reviews and I think I've narrowed it down. Comments are welcome and desired. BrianK.Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inI put the current Burris 3-12X on my .22 Hornet Exemplar. Magnification of 12X in a EER scope is about the limit for me on hold-ability and twitchy-ness, and it focuses well under 20 yards, maybe even 10 yards. The image is in focus at about 10', but I haven't checked for parallax at that distance.DrGunner. 15013 posts · Joined 2004. #2 · May 22, 2023. Hello- The reason why you cannot see or respond to an ad in the Marketplace Classifieds section is because you have not met the requisite minimum 30 forum posts required for participation in that area of Rimfire Central. The Marketplace Classifieds area is a free service provided and ...23. 939. Apr 16, 2024. by Gixxer2000. B. Scope choices. I've looked at reviews and I think I've narrowed it down. Comments are welcome and desired. BrianK.Sportsman 15. 2valve, Per "The Golden Century" the rifle was introduced in April of 1950. It is exactly the same as the Sportsman 10 with the exception of the longer magazine. There were 53,247 built. Mr. Gibbs feels it was the most successful of the .22 sporting rifles they (BSA) built and states "It gave almost trouble free performance."Nearly all transactions on our Marketplace Classifieds aka Trading Post go well. BUT we have had several scammers who have taken advantage of some of our members. ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols ...579 posts · Joined 2012. #14 · Jan 29, 2020. Boyds and Stocky's are offering aftermarket wood and laminate stocks for the RAR -- that's not the issue. But high-quality synthetic stocks are nonexistent, unless a person were to luck into an LRT takeoff.8K. Mar 17, 2024. by Jimmijo_56. 1 1 of 199 199. Whether you want to discuss hunting tactics, gear, places to hunt or want to share your latest trophy, this is the place!Whether you’re running a small business or just trying to make extra cash from unwanted belongings, Facebook Marketplace can help you quickly and easily sell things over the intern...Vaver Wittek Sight In Marketplace. Jump to Latest Follow ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 194.9K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting ...April 2024 CZ/BRNO 25 Yard Open Sight On Line Benchrest Match. Dunlop. Apr 1, 2024.We may earn a commission for products purchased through links on this pageDark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log in154 posts · Joined 2021. #1 · Jan 2, 2024. EABCO just announced 24” stainless match barrels for 457. They are claiming 1/2” to 3/4” 5 shot groups at 100 yards. Just received notification today. Average Joe, Tacoma, MUP and 1 other person. Save Share. Like. Sort by Oldest first.Rimfire Central Firearm Forum A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Swiss Not Military Trainer. 340mech. Mar 19, 2024. 1. 192. Mar 20, 2024. by minimike. As seen today at the local gun shop. ( K98 22lr kit & 1922)When I read about the Bergara B14r I was quite excited. It's a Remington 700 short action-based rimfire rifle. That means it's built along the lines of a $3000 Vudoo V22 and a $4000 Remington 40x, except the R14r retails for $1150 with a current street-price in some locations of $950.JW22. 1190 posts · Joined 2022. #4 · Mar 30, 2023. mich, This is what they sell for new on CZ webpage. More like $255-275 would be fair. michstorm. Share. Like.All Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.3K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...HK 416 D .22 Tactical Rimfire. 480 posts. 416 California Compliant Questions; By FaceVex, July 14, 2020; HK MP5 A5, MP5SD .22 Tactical Rimfire. 51 posts. What a neat rifle! ... Tactical 22 Marketplace. For sale / trade. Got a deal for a fellow Tactical 22 member? List it here. 168 posts. Holsters;Dec 26, 2023 · T. tfrank Discussion starter. 9104 posts · Joined 2004. #1 · Dec 26, 2023 (Edited) Still playing with knives, every decade of so!!! My first attempt long ago. My fisrt knife!!!!! | Rimfire Central Firearm Forum Have no idea when or even if they will ever get completed, based simply on how long I took with the first knife, but you never can ... The pull weight adjustment range is 175 - 450 grams or 6.2 - 15.9 ounces. Note: The J&P Custom Products website says their Anschutz Trigger Spring Set, with three springs, will work with several triggers, including the 5098. According to their information, the heaviest spring provides a 14 - 21 ounce pull.Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inRegistered users will only be able to use “Buy/Sell” post types within the marketplace. This is configurable in the admin pane within the node setting. Choose a listing type for buying or selling or trading. In the future you will be able to set a default for listing type. This will format the listing in a nicely presented view for users to ...Hoser. 330 posts · Joined 2005. #13 · Feb 21, 2022. After yesterdays PRS match I pulled out my Vudoo Single Shot and did some plinking at 180 and 300 yards with it. Hitting egg sized rocks on the backstop at 180 was too easy. Added in a fitsfull of elevation and started beating up a 5-6 inch plate at 300 yards.How do I report a market scammer? Save Share. Like. ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.2K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting ...Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inFeb 17, 2023. 4. 1K. Apr 14, 2023. by IowaShooter. My wife asked if i was sick again. I walked away from a nice savage 22 rifle today. Coalcracker. Feb 27, 2023.Sold Free 22 Long Rifle Ammo for Youth Programs. $0 USD. dbuffington. Mar 14, 2022. Pay It Forward. Pennsylvania. 15.HK 416 D .22 Tactical Rimfire. 480 posts. 416 California Compliant Questions; By FaceVex, July 14, 2020; HK MP5 A5, MP5SD .22 Tactical Rimfire. 51 …All Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.2K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...Toomany22s. 14640 posts · Joined 2017. #8 · Mar 30, 2023. Taurus/ Rossi revolvers are essentially SW clones. At one time both owned by the same conglomerate. When you pay 1/2 the price of a SW you are the QC. I have several Taurus products, and have never got a lemon. fourbore.About this Marketplace Listing. 2 likes 0 Replies Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. A forum community dedicated to Rimfire Central Firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about optics, ammo, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!Marketplace; Showcase; Gallery; Advanced Search; Members; FAQ; Dark Mode; ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 194.3K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization ...The Millvale Sportsmens Club in Wexford, PA (Franklin Park) is pleased to announce another schedule of rifle matches that may be shot with a .22 Rimfire, this time at 200 yards!!! Match fee is $5.00, juniors shoot for free. Course of Fire is 3 sighters, 40 rounds for score in @ 200 Yards (pit duty required) .I put the current Burris 3-12X on my .22 Hornet Exemplar. Magnification of 12X in a EER scope is about the limit for me on hold-ability and twitchy-ness, and it focuses well under 20 yards, maybe even 10 yards. The image is in focus at about 10', but I haven't checked for parallax at that distance.When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo.HK 416 D .22 Tactical Rimfire. 480 posts. ... Tactical 22 Marketplace. For sale / trade. Got a deal for a fellow Tactical 22 member? List it here. 168 posts. Holsters;

Newly joined Members must meet our new 30/30 rule (30 days + 30 posts) to use the Trading Post / Marketplace. The first member who posts "I will take it." in the ad thread has first right to buy. If you sell an item via PM or elsewhere and DON'T mark your ad "Sold", you risk suspension or forfeiture of your Marketplace Classifieds privileges.. Nearest redbox to this location

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Skinner Aperture Sight Questions (Marlin 39A) Rider47. Jul 30, 2023. 15. 1K. Aug 29, 2023. by STRUGL4X'SC. 1 1 of 14 14. NRA Smallbore Metallic Silhouette.142 posts · Joined 2009. #4 · Apr 11, 2024. I'm about a hour and a half south of you in downtown Popcorn, Indiana. I may be up your way Saturday to shoot the ARA match at the Marion County Game and Fish Club.Faire is a wholesale marketplace that connects independent retailers with unique and high-quality products from thousands of makers and brands. With Faire’s easy-to-use platform, r...Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log inAll Marketplace Listings. Create Listing Filters Filters Clear ... Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. 6.4M posts 195.4K members Since 2002 A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews ...Dark Mode; Light Mode; menu Log in39107 posts · Joined 2007. #12 · Aug 11, 2018. Glad to have you around, Bob. While we love CZ and BRNO firearms, the best parts of RFC are the people sharing their knowledge and kindness. :t. Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.581 posts · Joined 2009. #1 · Oct 22, 2021 (Edited) Bergara BMR Trigger Mod same as B14R. Only factory trigger adjustment is for the spring tension. So I just backed it off to minimum "screw in front of trigger". There was no factory sear adjustment, but there is a pilot hole pre drilled in the back of the trigger group that conveniently ...Finding the perfect car can be an overwhelming task, especially with so many options available in today’s marketplace. However, with the right knowledge and a strategic approach, n...Purchase the OnTarget software and you can print the ARA targets that are offered in the program. The software can score your target and analyze it as well. You can also print and/or store the results. I use card stock to print the ARA and the PSL targets. It's an extremely valuable tool for tuning as well. Here's the link: https ...When I shot silhouettes with the rimfire pistol, you have 2 minutes to shoot 5 targets. That's a lot of time. Then you write down your scores and 2 more minutes 5 more targets for a bank of 10. The scope can be anything you can hold still at 100 yards. Bigger magnifies the target and the wiggle.About this Marketplace Listing. 3 likes 8 Replies Rimfire Central Firearm Forum. A forum community dedicated to Rimfire Central Firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about optics, ammo, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!Pete44ru. 5237 posts · Joined 2005. #29 · Jul 31, 2009. The first rifle I got, back when I first got married, was when my then-new wife bought me a new Springfield Model 187 for our first Christmas - 1965. IIRC, though - Mine had the two-position locking holes, but fired from a closed bolt, just like a 10/22, and not from an open bolt.A family friendly forum community dedicated to rimfire firearm owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion of all manner of rimfire pistols, rifles, optics, ammo, gunsmithing, customization, reviews, hunting, accessories, classifieds, and more!NEW Colt King Cobra .22 Revolver - After Market Stuff. I have the new Colt K.C. 22lr revolver. I've been trying to find wood grips to replace the Hogue. I've ordered three, sent two back because they didn't fit. I have a set (Hogue Checkered Rosewood for "small frame" King Cobra after 2017). coming that I think (hope) will fit that.The pull weight adjustment range is 175 - 450 grams or 6.2 - 15.9 ounces. Note: The J&P Custom Products website says their Anschutz Trigger Spring Set, with three springs, will work with several triggers, including the 5098. According to their information, the heaviest spring provides a 14 - 21 ounce pull.Sold Free 22 Long Rifle Ammo for Youth Programs. $0 USD. dbuffington. Mar 14, 2022. Pay It Forward. Pennsylvania. 15. 5K.Pete44ru. 5237 posts · Joined 2005. #29 · Jul 31, 2009. The first rifle I got, back when I first got married, was when my then-new wife bought me a new Springfield Model 187 for our first Christmas - 1965. IIRC, though - Mine had the two-position locking holes, but fired from a closed bolt, just like a 10/22, and not from an open bolt..

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